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Bottle In Front of Me... Frontal Labotomy??? Tough Choice?
Asked by: DanPaulCraig
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There recently was a movie played on PBS on Frontal Lobotomies. I'm interested to know what people here think on the subject. A summery of this movie can be found here...
http://www.washingtonpost.com, search "the Lobotomist"
The atrocity of this treatment is still echoed today with extensive Psychopharmacology, inappropriate usage of ECT, and Institutionalization... These all have been damaging too many with these illnesses.
My questions to anyone who wants to weigh in are...
- What do any of you see as the block to recognizing the humanity in those with Mental Illnesses?
- Do you feel that those blocks are currently inherent in our society?
- Either way, what do you recommend we as a society do to remedy this condition?
http://www.washingtonpost.com, search "the Lobotomist"
The atrocity of this treatment is still echoed today with extensive Psychopharmacology, inappropriate usage of ECT, and Institutionalization... These all have been damaging too many with these illnesses.
My questions to anyone who wants to weigh in are...
- What do any of you see as the block to recognizing the humanity in those with Mental Illnesses?
- Do you feel that those blocks are currently inherent in our society?
- Either way, what do you recommend we as a society do to remedy this condition?
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(01/28/08):
I am NOT looking for someone to defend psychitrists... (in most cases, that isn't possible) the ones that aren't in need of a defense are phnominal!!! but they are few and far between. When I talk about Pollyphamacy, I'm talking about people placed on multiple anti-depresents, mutlple anti-psychotics, multiple mood stabelizers, a few benzo's for good mesure, and lets not foget medicating all of the side effects... Diabitties, High Colesteral, Obesity, High BP... (all that cause the average age of death to be 25 years less then the general population)
I am looking for a viewpoint about why people with savear mental illnesses are not viewed as human... this further clairfication (i hope) will explain that better.
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(02/01/08):
Responce to Dareg's Clarification Request... NO. My phrasing has absolutly NOTHING to do with the Kennedy dynasty... or the Kennedy's spesifically. My question is in regards to the continued use of treatments that do the same thing as a Labotomy... Up too and including, potentally killing the patient... This is ok, because, as I have seen in my work as an advocate for those with Mental illnesses, the expectation that humane treatment occur in an etical maner... dosen't seem to imply. All that is discussed is how these treatments are needed to protect the world from those with psychiatric disorders, and there is no recognition of the fact that these are human beings, that should be afforded the same rights that much of society often takes for granted!!!
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If a treatment team’s goal is to make a patient quiet, passive and compliant, then lobotomy is an effective way to go. The destruction of a person’s free will and ability to make choices can be just so darn convenient sometimes. They don’t complain. They don’t talk back. Heck, a lot of the time they won’t even speak until spoken to. True, sometimes patients are damaged so severely that they need to be periodically ask if they have to go to the bath room because they can’t initiate that thought themselves, bu...
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You are dead on right... and your sarcasam added some humor too. The solution is infered, but still clear. Good work! |
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This is an excellent question. Throughout history, those who dedicated their lives to caring for the mentally ill have struggled with this double-edged sword. On one hand, many psychiatric patients have intractable illnesses; while on the other hand, many of our therapies have been maligned by the laity as “atrocities.” If you read enough medical history, you will see that all professions look back in a horror at the treatments of yesterday. Moreover, like other medical professions, many current treatments are wroug...
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I do agree with your viewpoint that all these patients must be either treated for good or leave them as they are rather than complicating the cases after lobotomy operations which may even kill them. I have few records to prove it.
Gottlieb Burckhardt removed pieces of the frontal lobes of six patients in a psychiatric hospital in Switzerland. One died after the operation, and a...
Gottlieb Burckhardt removed pieces of the frontal lobes of six patients in a psychiatric hospital in Switzerland. One died after the operation, and a...
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My response revolves around your very last comment about why some can't be viewed as human.
It is human nature to be afraid of something we cannot understand. The details of many of these mental illnesses are surprisingly unknown. Since we cannot understand a lot of what can go wrong with the human mind, some of us may be encouraged to stay away. When many people want these people to be s...
It is human nature to be afraid of something we cannot understand. The details of many of these mental illnesses are surprisingly unknown. Since we cannot understand a lot of what can go wrong with the human mind, some of us may be encouraged to stay away. When many people want these people to be s...
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Frontal Lobotomies is a form of psychosurgery, also known as a leukotomy or leucotomy (from Greek leukos: clear or white and tomos meaning "cut/slice"). It consists of cutting the connections to and from, or simply destroying, the prefrontal cortex. These procedures often result in major personality changes and possible mental retardation. Lobotomies were used in the past to treat a wide range of severe mental illnesses, including schizophrenia, clinical depression, and various anxiety disorders. After the int...
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I think the main flaw in mental health professionals is their inability to understand what mental illness feels like. A quote from the source. You will find it interesting.
If a person shows outward signs of mental illness, it is inherent in our society to be frightened about what we do not understand. I see no hope in providing enough education to change this.
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If a person shows outward signs of mental illness, it is inherent in our society to be frightened about what we do not understand. I see no hope in providing enough education to change this.
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Answer Date: 08:59pm 02/02/08
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